Locical Fallacy 2


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Atheism is non-belief which leaves no place for doubt, it is not a non-belief;

It is a superstition by definition: a non-belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge or circumstance not logically related to a course of events influences its outcome.

What theories have been proven true and absolute?

Silly Question even an atheist knows no theory can be proven true. (Like evolution)

So with no proof a theory is true. Does that mean it’s false? No of course not a theory stands as fact until falsified despite lack of proof.

Theo-ries = a set of ideas that have never been proven false after many many experiments

Would not the following equation be equally true?

Theo-logy = a set of ideas that have never been proven false after many many experiments.

Not being falsified they stand as fact. Is that not the scientific method? An idea stands until falsified and never proven by means of evidence.

Does god exist, is he real? I for one do not pretend not to know, what many atheists are sure they don’t believe in.

What god is, is an unfalsified fact. Just like the theory of evolution the big band and the spaghetti monster and pink unicorns are any of them real? Probably not but the fact remains. Evidence just supports a theory and raises probability that’s all nothing more it proves nothing.

Why is it so hard for atheists to admit the truth?

Just admit you don’t know is that so hard?

I became agnostic when I was praying one day and realized I was talking to myself. I stayed away from atheism because they demanded proof of this fact… That and the fact atheists have no holidays. Who doesn’t like turkey and Easter eggs? Do atheist fundies really not celebrate Christmas Easter and thanksgiving? DO they not celebrate the birth of the one nation under god on the 4th of July who in god they trust? Really? REALLY? Do they close their eyes and plug their ears and phone the police when the fireworks go off? The atheist fundie un-religion must really suck on those days. What do you think? And who do they talk to when they are having an orgasm?

Come on you must be getting bored talking to Christians who will never believe a word your saying. Think agnostic and you can argue with twice as many people. Come back to your roots. You know you don’t know just use the un-force just say it the truth will set you lose.

Perhaps atheists have belief and claim confused?

If I say I choose to believe in god that is not a claim it’s called a belief. A belief may or not be rational but it certainly does not have to be proven or evidence given to be fact. If I believe red is my favorite color does it require proof? No but it is a fact. How many people say there is or is not a god not knowing the implications or caring. Only the ignorant would presume to ask for proof of a belief, justification maybe proof no.

God is a fact that requires no proof get over it.

Fact: something believed to be true or real.

Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored

Anyone who uses science to prove or disprove any type of higher power, quite frankly, doesn’t understand science. Anybody who has taken a basic physics course in college would understand between the obvious differences between science and religion and why you don’t mix them

Is god a fact a belief or both?

If I say god is a fact. Or I choose to believe in god. Or god is real. Did I make a claim needing proof or is it a statement of fact?

Claim: To state to be true

 Fact: Something believed to be true or real

If I claimed my favourite color was red, would it require evidence to be accepted as truth?

If I stated that my favourite color is red is a fact. Would I need to prove it or give evidence to support my belief?

If an atheist said all Christians believe red is their favourite color and for them to prove it. Would it make sense?

If an atheist claimed all Christians believe in god and then asked for proof would it make sense?

Or reworded the question to say Christians say they believe in god they made the claim they need to prove it? Does that make sense?

This is called the fallacy of many questions or loaded question. A logical fallacy.

So I can say god is a fact you don’t need to believe it but a Christian does not need to prove it. Just like unicorns, the big bang theory, and evolution.

Belief is not a claim.

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be understood by atheists. And an atheist will never see the difference.

You can’t convince an atheist of anything; for their non-belief is not based on evidence, it’s based on a deep-seated need to not to believe. Supported by a presupposition that god exists, which they deny. Sound logic or a logical fallacy?

Circular reasoning is a formal logical fallacy in which the proposition to be proved is assumed implicitly or explicitly in one of the premises. For example:

“God does not exist. The fact that Christians can’t prove there is a god is proof of this.”

OR “god cannot be proven, because you cannot prove a negative.”

Such an argument is fallacious, because it relies upon its own proposition — “God does not exist” or “God cannot be proven” — in order to support its central premise. Essentially, the argument assumes that its central point is already proven, and uses this in support of itself.

Clearly, atheism is not a rational worldview. It is self-refuting because the atheist must first assume the opposite of what he is trying to prove in order to be able to prove anything. Much like a-theism presupposes theism. Laws of logic require the existence of God.

You can’t convince an atheist of anything; for their non-belief is not based on evidence, it’s based on a deep-seated need to not to believe. Supported by a presupposition that god exists, which they deny. Sound logic or a logical fallacy? A non-belief based on Circular reasoning.

Circular reasoning always presupposes guilt instead of assuming innocence “I say your guilty of murder prove your innocent or you are guilty.” This type of Logic is called a Kangaroo Court or in medieval times an Inquisition. Seems ironic Atheists having to resort to inquisition to support their non-belief. A practice Christians left behind centuries ago.

And remember don’t use Merry Christmas … Happy Holidays gets on them thar Theists nerves.. Happy Holy Day….

One last tidbit:

I wonder when the flat earth theory was accepted as truth did it fall from acceptance because one atheist kept nattering for the powers that be provide him with proof HE was prepaired to accept OR when did it change when one Agnostic got up off his ass and said  I really don’t know lets have a look and see? And the world changed forever.

Truthfully I’m sure if you arrived at an atheists home with a man on a donkey speaking aramaic with 12 followers the would call a cop 🙂


Agnostic Jokes 9


The 10 Commandments of Logical Fallacies

1. Thou shall not attack the person’s character, but the argument. (Ad hominem)

2. Thou shall not misrepresent or exaggerate a person’s argument in order to make them easier to attack. (Straw man fallacy)

3. Thou shall not use small numbers to represent the whole. (Hasty generalization)

4. Thou shall not argue thy position by assuming one of its premises is true. (Begging the question)

5. Thou shall not claim that because something occurred before, it must be the cause. (Post Hoc/False cause)

6. Thou shall not reduce the argument down to two possibilities. (False dichotomy)

7. Thou shall not argue that because of our ignorance, claim must be true or false. (Ad ignorantium)

8. Thou shall not select only the supporting information and ignore everything that goes against the claim. (Cherry-picking)

9. Thou shall not assume “this” follows “that” when it has no logical connection. (Non sequitur)

10. Thou shall not claim that because a premise is popular, therefore it must be true.(Bandwagon fallacy)


Agnostic Question1

12 Signs You May Be Atheist Fundie…

1. You became an atheist when you were 10 years old, based on ideas of God that you learned in Sunday School. Your ideas about God haven’t changed since.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

2. You think that the primary aim of an omni-benevolent God is for people to have FUN.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

3. Although you’ve memorized a half a dozen proofs that He doesn’t exist, you still think you’re God’s gift to the ignorant masses.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

4. You believe the astronomical size of the universe somehow disproves God, as if God needed a tiny universe in order to exist.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

5. You spend hours arguing that atheism actually means “the lack of belief in gods” and not just “belief that god does not exist”, as if this is a meaningful distinction in real life.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

6. You can make the existence of pink unicorns the center-piece of a philosophical critique.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

7. You’re a spoiled fifteen year old boy who lives in the suburbs and you go into a chat room to declare that, “I know there is no God because no loving God would allow anyone to suffer as much as I…hold on. My cell phone’s ringing.”

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

8. You believe that if something cannot be touched, seen, heard, or measured in some way, then it must not exist, yet you fail to see the irony of your calling Christians “narrow-minded”.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

9. You believe that priests are only in it for the money, despite the fact that they make less than almost anyone else with their level of education.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

10. Your only knowledge of The Bible comes from searching ‘bible contradictions’ in Google.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

11. You believe the movie Dogma gives the most accurate portrayal of Christian theology.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…

12. You refuse to eat at Church’s Chicken, and it’s NOT because the chicken’s too greasy.

You May Be Atheist Fundie…


Agnostic Question1


Why is it that no matter what color of pink unicorn bubble bath you use the bubbles are always clear?

Why do buffalo wings taste like chicken? What do chickens think atheist fundies taste like, eggs or eggholes?


Agnostic Question1

How can you rationalize a belief in the nonexistent and at the same time a non-belief in the nonexistent?

Isn’t it the same thing really? A belief in nothing VS a non-belief in nothing.

Its just an opinion on nothing with no knowledge to support your belief either way you put it….


Agnostic Question1

Isn’t trying to prove religion with science like washing your feet with your sox on?

What does science have to do with atheism?

What rocket scientist though that one up? Like me saying I bashed two rocks together in pond scum and failed to make life or dinosaurs so evolution and the beginning of life is false. Scientific proof of philosophy indeed.


Agnostic Question1

If two independent experiments failed to replicate the Abiogenesis Theory does it falsify the Theory?

In natural science, abiogenesis or biopoesis is the study of how biological life arises from inorganic matter. (Not ignorance matters, That’s an atheist fundie term)

The two independently conducted experiments one by an agnostic and the other by an atheist team both failed miserably.

The agnostic bashed two rocks together in pond scum and failed to make life or dinosaurs.

While the atheist team bashed their two rocks on bums and also failed to make life as well, although the two proud dads did think for a moment they gave birth to a baby dinosaur. But upon closer inspection they discovered it was just a haemorrhoid that had burst during the experiment. Bummer.


Agnostic Question1

If wishes were horses, would atheist fundies ride?

I took my atheist fundie friend horseback riding. He had a blast, until I ran out of quarters. You don’t have to be a zoologist to recognize an atheist fundie jackass 🙂

Whoever coined the phrase “quiet as an atheist fundie” Has clearly never stepped on one.


Agnostic Question1

Will there will come a time when an atheist fundie believe everything is finished?

When that time comes it will be the beginning of your agnostic journey. When you can finally answer the question what is the sound of one hand clapping. With a smile and show your enlightenment without breaking the silence you are trying to explain.

And know the answer to this: If who I am is what I have and what I have is lost, then who am I?

Then and only then will your butt release your head from bondage and set you free from Uranus to explore the universe that awaits beyond…

The Agnostologist MacNova Autodidact, Polymath and Agnostic-at-large, Koanmaster And very Zenney Guy.


Agnostic Question1

Is the Theory of Relativity like an agnostic with a crunchy peanut butter sandwich?

In that the hardness of crunchy peanut butter is directly proportional to the relative softness of the bread.

And wasn’t that Theory just falsified like the Big bang was a few years ago? I liked the Bouncing Universe Theory myself back then it made perfect sense too 🙂 But the New String theory is plausible.


Agnostic Question1

What does science have to do with Atheism?

Is Atheology and Theology branches of Physics or Chemistry do new discoveries in science prove or disprove god?


Agnostic Question1

Atheists don’t seem to realize theories are called theories because they are just that … A THEORY… That’s why we have LAWS. Did the flat earth Theory go away because some Atheist told everyone to prove it to him? Or was is when some agnostic came along and said”I don’t know lets see” and proved it was round? Guess that answers Rick’s question.


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Kinda works the same way in Law… If I say you killed somebody, I have to prove that you did it. You do not have to prove you didn’t. With Ricks statement saying he can fly. I would look at him and say moron and carry on.

An atheist has already made up their mind on god and even though they as for proof there is nothing they would accept as proof. I’m sure if I showed up at Rickys place with some dude on a donkey ans 12 followers he would call the police. and say moron and carry on …

To the Believers no proof is nessessary to the non believers none is possible and some admit they just don’t know.

Do atheists take religion too seriously?

Are Christians just teasing the poor atheist fundies?

Has this has been a matter of moving the goal posts and atheist fundies not getting it?

Back with the Greeks, the believers said: “The Gods live upon this mountain.”
All you’d have to do to verify this would have been to climb the mountain.

The medieval Christians said: “God is watching us from above.”
This became a bit questionable when it was proven that the Earth is not the center of the solar system.
(this is the fellow they don’t believe exists)

Nowadays Christians say: “God cannot be confirmed by science. You need faith to feel him.”
And the atheists don’t know how to deal with that?

Just like atheists try to do with the alien space craft, they keep getting updated reports. In the 50″s they looked like a flying saucers with little green men, the 70’s we get an updates craft and the aliens go from green to grey and make circles as proof and molest cows. Now we have planet sized craft with engines and they don’t crash in Roswell any more (guess they got brakes from our civilization 🙂

And ya wonder why there are agnostics 🙂

“The objective is to convince people that Darwinism is inherently atheistic, thus shifting the debate from creationism vs. evolution to the existence of God vs. the non-existence of God. From there people are introduced to the truth of the Bible and then the question of sin and finally introduced to Jesus.”
— Phillip Johnson, creator of the idea of ‘Intelligent’ Design

It is amusing to see how serious an atheist takes religion… The know and accept and see the humor in the Flying Spaghetti Monster but lose their collective shit when you try and tell them most Christians don’t take Intelligent Design seriously.